Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

I think there are already plans to have an Obama holiday.

I hear that August is holiday-free. How about the 3rd Monday? Make it a 3 day weekend!

Everybody that goes to the Celebration Rally can get 4 hours credited to their 100 hours of "Civil Service"!!!

Cool!!! :sunny:
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

I think there are already plans to have an Obama holiday.

I hear that August is holiday-free. How about the 3rd Monday? Make it a 3 day weekend!

Everybody that goes to the Celebration Rally can get 4 hours credited to their 100 hours of "Civil Service"!!!

Cool!!! :sunny:

:laughing: well since it would be required I guess I can go to the celebration. I am in that elderly groop.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

If you had actually gone to his site and read what was there you would have seen the part about the elderly.. I will post it again.

Engage Retiring Americans in Service on a Large Scale: Older Americans have a wide range of skills and knowledge to contribute. Obama and Biden will expand and improve programs that connect individuals over the age of 55 to quality volunteer opportunities.

It doesn't say anything about requiring them to volunteer. lots of retirees volunteer. Its about making more programs for them to contribute.. They are not forced or required to volunteer. Hence the word volunteer.

And I wouldnt have a problem keeping up if you werent all over the place. give it to them.. no dont give it to them.. dont make them work for it.. yes make them work for it. :scratch:
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

What is socialism?

Socialism is an economic system characterized by public ownership and centralized planning of all major industries (manufacturing, services, and energy), banks and insurance companies, agribusiness, transportation, the media, and medical facilities. Under capitalism, these giant enterprises dominate the economy but are privately owned and operated for the purpose of generating wealth for their owners by extracting it from working people who are paid only a small fraction of what their labor produces. Socialism turns this around so that the class that produces the wealth can collectively decide how it will be used for the benefit of all.

As African-American poet and communist Langston Hughes wrote in "Good Morning, Revolution":

…Together,
We can take everything:
Factories, arsenals, houses, ships,
Railroads, forests, fields, orchards…
And turn 'em over to the people who work.
Rule 'em and run 'em for us people who work.

Real socialism is, by definition, democratic. It is economic as well as political democracy. Many capitalist countries boast of their democratic institutions, but this is an illusion because all the political power is in the hands of those who hold the wealth. Socialism prioritizes human needs and eliminates the profit motive that drives war, ecological destruction, and inequalities based on gender, race, nationality and sexuality.

Like capitalism, socialism must be international so that global resources can be shared. No country can be truly independent of the global economy because until capitalism is defeated internationally it will continue to sabotage efforts to build socialism. Achieving socialism in the United States, the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, is necessary to any country being able to determine its own destiny.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

:sunny: I'm sure alot of teens would be more than happy to perform some community service for $4000. It could very well mean the difference of being able to go to college or not for alot of them. Not everyone can get academic or sports scholarships. $4000 for 100 hours is a pretty good return, not to mention that they may learn something doing the community service. It certainly is better than just handing over the money.
I'm not an Obama fan either but I have learned a long time ago that when you can't change something, tis better to look at the bright side.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

The community service is required only if they WANT to get the $4000 not every child HAS to do this....and what is the big deal ...it is only 2 hours a week for a year and they get $4000 for college....I wish I could get that kind of money for only working 2 hours a week!

My daughter is required by my church to do 15 hours of community service to get confirmed...so I guess from what you are saying then is that my pastor can also be compared to Hitler...

I think it is very disrespectful to compare OUR new President elect with an insane mass murderer...not very christian like in my eyes...I have tried to avoid puttting anything political on here...but this has really angered me...I guarantee you if anyone here had said the same about McCain all of you McCain supporters would have come unglued.

I will gladly volunteer my Middle Schooler to do any community service if it is required or not....there is nothing wrong with children learning how to help other people and to learn how to do good things.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

I've said it from day one that I didn't like either of them, but I do not see that asking people to perform community service for reward of money is a bad thing. My children have been REQUIRED to do community service every year for Beta club, they have also been REQUIRED to keep their grades up and pay fees...this is the real world and not everyone can get something for nothing and I think for those of us that fall into the middle class income group that this is an easy way for our children to decide to help with their own education. Lower income brackets can get grants and such and the one's with the money don't need as much ~ but this opportunity would be for ALL of them. I don't see that any are excluded...

Community service is something that has to be pretty much inbred in children from the beginning anyway. Some will see it as an easy way to make extra money for college and some will look at it and say there isn't anyway on God's green earth that they will (plant flowers, clean roads, help teachers or whatever ~ you fill in your own blank). He isn't asking them to spend time out on the front line in Iraq people, calm down. Do and receive or do not and don't it is an easy choice from this point of view!
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

The community service is required only if they WANT to get the $4000 not every child HAS to do this....and what is the big deal ...it is only 2 hours a week for a year and they get $4000 for college....I wish I could get that kind of money for only working 2 hours a week!

My daughter is required by my church to do 15 hours of community service to get confirmed...so I guess from what you are saying then is that my pastor can also be compared to Hitler...

I will gladly volunteer my Middle Schooler to do any community service if it is required or not....there is nothing wrong with children learning how to help other people and to learn how to do good things.

My thoughts exactly...
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Well, you guys elected him ... enjoy him! :scratch: I can always move 10 miles West and live with the Canooks.

Can I come with you? :scratch:

Firesign Theatre-Everything You Know Is Wrong

"we're going to take turns...and guess who's turn it is now!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M897lps5eBw

"“But he who endures to the end will be saved.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcHNZeoDCM

"Mr. President, where can I get a job?"
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Wow busy thread. I still say the word require was an issue otherwise it would not have been changed. If anyone wants to volunteer to serve for anything that's great but do not make it a requirement. And rather you like it or not anytime a ruler starts to require anything or anyone that sounds like Hitler mentality.

The more power the government has over a nation the more socialist it becomes.

I do hope you can keep up with me now.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Loren, don't the Firesign guys live in your neck of the woods? :scratch: Beerwhiz beer! Dead cat soap! (sorry, back to politics)
Don't forget your soap and towels!
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Loren, don't the Firesign guys live in your neck of the woods? :scratch: Beerwhiz beer! Dead cat soap! (sorry, back to politics)
Don't forget your soap and towels!

I will not be going into any showers even if it is required lol. Well just at my 0wn shower anyways.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Oh yeah if we are REQUIRED to do anything we can all thank the community organizer become President.
 
Re: Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

Our church "mandated" 40 hours of volunteerism for confirmation, and I stood up to the priest on this issue. They claim they're implanting the seed of goodness in them. Forcing servitude plants the seed of nothing. Parents are responsible for bringing up their children to be good samaritans, not the "Man" or the church. I refused servitude for my children, and they can get confirmed when they want to get married.

When churches take the 501(c) tax exemption they then make themselves vulnerable to the government's mandates. I chose not to put my children into my church's school because of the things they were doing. I put my children into another church's Christian school where they used a very progressed homeschooling curriculum and where the church REFUSED to take the 501(c) tax exemption--they pay their taxes.
 
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