Obama camp scrubs website to remove references to “mandatory” community service

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I have to say, this post scares me. It does not sound like we are all Americans. It sounds like we should all go join Todd Palin and try to form a secession group to get ourselves out of the US.

Good heavens--the US and its government have problems, no doubt, but there is a reason that we all live here have not tried to move to a different country (one that is perhaps governed better in some peoples' opinions) and that people in many other countries want to move here.

It's really disturbing to hear that people are waiting for our president to fail. I don't like GWB at all, but I never wanted him to fall on his face, and when people wrongly criticize him, I defend his policies (when people rightly criticize his policies, I will agree, but tend to point out the good parts of them).

My husbands grandparents moved here from Ireland and came here because of the opportunities in this country. For those of you who will say that was a long time ago, we have friends who recently moved here from Croatia to come to a more stable, land of more opportunities. There has to be some good in what our government is doing, or people would be fleeing very quickly.

It doesn't sound like some of you supported McCain, but just dislike Obama for whatever reason.

He is not going to be able to "fix" everything in government, and thankfully did not ever say he could. But, for those anti-Obama folks out there, I sadly think that no matter what he does accomplish, they will focus on what he did not.

Give him a break. He has not even begun his presidency!
 
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The President of the United States is not much more than simply a figure head just like the Queen of England. In England, Parliament sets the pace; and, here, Congress sets the pace.

The President does not have the power to fix anything on his own or even begin to keep promises that he made. He just doesn't have that kind of power. The country is guided mainly by Congress.
 
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Give him a break. He has not even begun his presidency!

That was my point exactly and these type of threads do nothing but breed hate and fear and we have enough problems to worry about right now. I don't like GWB but he has had 8 years to make me feel this way. Obama will be in the White House soon and like I said, while he wasn't my favorite, he has a clean slate right now and will have a chance to prove himself to me ~ just like everyone I meet on the street!!
 
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Oh like I said let's just see what he will do. Congress runs the government and they have a very low approval rating.

For someone who is not even in office yet he sure is trying to rule already.

But if he does even some of what he wants to we will be in for a rough road.
 
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Okay ~ what about this one???

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bush_family_911.html?q=bush_family_911.html

You like Bush right? You can find anything online...notice the Hitler/Bush connection at the bottom. No that doesn't make it fact ~ no more than that link that you posted did. That is an foreign newspaper...they wouldn't have any reason to make us want to doubt our government now would they?

You can set and read those type of links all day, but all that is going to make you do is make you miserable. For everyone you post someone can post one right back and it gets you nowhere. And probably none of it is true.

If you believe that God is in control then he has some reason for Obama to be in office...things happen for a reason ~ period! And I promise that that is the last link I will post on the subject because it will get us nowhere and is really pointless...
 
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God is not in control of who becomes President, we are. God gives us free will, even when it means continuing to vote for those, republican and democrat, that will be the demise of this country.
 
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yes, I know that we have free will, but I think that things happen according to God's purpose. If he didn't want it to happen then it wouldn't, but again that is my beliefs and I respect yours as well.
 
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Bush is out. Yes Obama is in for a reason because God is in control. I personally believe we are closer than ever to his return.

Let's see what everyone says in a few months. All we have to go on is what Obama said he would do so that is what I base most of my thinking on.

Hold on for some big changes.
 
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If that were to be true, then Revelations would be obsolete.
 
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Revelation is real and that is why I believe all that we are going through is part of the plan that God had from the beginning. Yes we have freewill and we will choose who we think best relates to what we believe. Obama does not fit in with what the Bible teaches.

That is why I could not vote for him.
 
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If that were to be true, then Revelations would be obsolete.

why would you think that?

Revelations depicts the end times. Governments ruling over the people. Warring and uprisings.

Our life on this earth is a pass or fail test, and God just let's us know when we are doing right or when we are doing wrong only if we watch for the signs and are guided by them.

If we were to believe that he were to intervene in such a way, then you would believe he would intervene in everything else. Then this country wouldn't be directed down the same path it has been for the past 100 years. He would intervene in wars, death, and on and on. If this were the case, he wouldn't be allowing revelations to occur.
 
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Good points LDS. Yes we have freewill but I think he already knows what we will do before we do it. Our future is already planed God knows how it will all end.
 
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Psalm 33:11 ~ The counsel of the LORD stands forever, The plans of His heart from generation to generation. (NASB ©1995)

Proverbs 19:21 Many plans are in a man's heart, But the counsel of the LORD will stand.\

Psalm 33:10 The LORD nullifies the counsel of the nations; He frustrates the plans of the peoples.

http://bible.cc/psalms/33-10.htm

Psalm 2:1 Why are the nations in an uproar And the peoples devising a vain thing?

Isaiah 8:10 "Devise a plan, but it will be thwarted; State a proposal, but it will not stand, For God is with us."

Proverbs 16:1 The purposes of the heart are of man, but the answer of the tongue is from Jehovah
 
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Wow, this thread sure has gotten cynical. Here's an article that sort of fits with what someone said above:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122584386627599251.html

All the Bush bashing has not helped us as a nation. Obama extremism (adore or abhor him) won't help us either. Too much time is spent bickering over inconsequential stuff. Lincoln, the Republican who granted the black folks their freedom, summed it up nicely with his "a house divided cannot stand" observation. Imagine how high emotions ran when he was president. Now he usually ranks as everyone's favorite.
 
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