Another frustrating win

eran2011

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Hello all, I was just notified that I won a $3,600 travel package to Indianapolis Race Track, however since it has no cash element I will have to pay the taxes out of pocket, which would be around $1,500. Hence, I had to decline. Any ideas on how to deal with it?
 
Hello all, I was just notified that I won a $3,600 travel package to Indianapolis Race Track, however since it has no cash element I will have to pay the taxes out of pocket, which would be around $1,500. Hence, I had to decline. Any ideas on how to deal with it?
Your outcome is why I tend to steer away from prizes that are trip/travel related. Some even offer no transportation and they seem to inflate the value of the prize. Trust me, you will get a 1099 for the full stated value. I dont even know if you can transfer it to someone else. Good luck.
 
$1500 in taxes for a $3600 travel package sounds very high. I've never heard of that much tax for a prize of that value. It should be closer to half that amount in my opinion. I'm not an accountant but just talking from experience.
 
$1500 in taxes for a $3600 travel package sounds very high. I've never heard of that much tax for a prize of that value. It should be closer to half that amount in my opinion. I'm not an accountant but just talking from experience.
To my understanding it's taxed as normal income, so the tax amount is in accordance with your highest bracket.
 
Hello all, I was just notified that I won a $3,600 travel package to Indianapolis Race Track, however since it has no cash element I will have to pay the taxes out of pocket, which would be around $1,500. Hence, I had to decline. Any ideas on how to deal with it?
Little off the question but even if you won cash towards the taxes, wouldn't you still have to pay taxes on the cash you are given?
 
That's true. The highest tax bracket might be as much as 37%. I don't know many people that fall into that bracket. 36% of $3600 would be tax of $1296. Now the average tax % that most people pay after standard deductions is usually 24%. A lot less if you file with deductions. So 24% tax of $3600 would be $864. I would just be careful with estimating this as you could be mistakenly declining a nice trip for a small fraction of the trip value in tax.
 
Little off the question but even if you won cash towards the taxes, wouldn't you still have to pay taxes on the cash you are given?
If you won a really big prize where that came into play, usually tax is paid by the sponsor before receiving the prize so that you don't get surprised with the tax bill.
 
I should also mention that if you won a big prize like a new car or truck you could also sell the car after receiving it to have a big net profit after taxes. Many people do this who might not need an expensive vehicle or home.
 
That's true. The highest tax bracket might be as much as 37%. I don't know many people that fall into that bracket. 36% of $3600 would be tax of $1296. Now the average tax % that most people pay after standard deductions is usually 24%. A lot less if you file with deductions. So 24% tax of $3600 would be $864. I would just be careful with estimating this as you could be mistakenly declining a nice trip for a small fraction of the trip value in tax.
I live in NY so state tax and even local taxes also come into play. At best, I might be able to get a fixed 30% rate, which still brings me to $1,200...
 
Since you've already declined, this is a bit of a moot point, but... I have won trips in the past, and the best advice I received about the stated value versus taxes is to keep all receipts from your trip. For anything mentioned in the prize description, keep the receipt. If the sponsor is doing the trip booking for you, ask for a full accounting once everything's booked and paid. That way, when you receive the 1099, you can check it against your receipts. If the 1099 says $3,600, and your receipts show that, in reality, the trip cost $2,400, you can dispute that when you file your taxes. Receipts are the IRS' "love language" so if you've got them, they'll accept those as proof of the lower value (and thus, lower tax liability) for the prize.
 
Thank you all for your feedback - I guess the main takeaway is to read the rules carefully and only sign up for Sweepstakes with prizes that are worth the tax amount (for me).
 
I agree with all of the previous comments about trips and keeping receipts. Often the stated value of the prize is an estimate, especially if airfare is part of the prize. Airfare is drastically different depending on where you live. The estimated airfare value is almost always much higher than the actual amount paid. It can be tricky if part of the prize is a meet and greet with a famous person. I have seen crazy estimates for these.
Was the company asking for taxes to be paid before you went on the trip? Someone else mentioned a few weeks ago that Disney was asking for taxes even before leaving. I find this odd. I am hoping this isn't a new trend. I've only had to deal with taxes at tax time after I enjoyed the win.
Congrats on the win. I'm sorry you had to turn it down.
 
$1500 in taxes for a $3600 travel package sounds very high. I've never heard of that much tax for a prize of that value. It should be closer to half that amount in my opinion. I'm not an accountant but just talking from experience.
Prizes get added ON to one's individual income. It is not a stand-alone transaction.
 
I agree with all of the previous comments about trips and keeping receipts. Often the stated value of the prize is an estimate, especially if airfare is part of the prize. Airfare is drastically different depending on where you live. The estimated airfare value is almost always much higher than the actual amount paid. It can be tricky if part of the prize is a meet and greet with a famous person. I have seen crazy estimates for these.
Was the company asking for taxes to be paid before you went on the trip? Someone else mentioned a few weeks ago that Disney was asking for taxes even before leaving. I find this odd. I am hoping this isn't a new trend. I've only had to deal with taxes at tax time after I enjoyed the win.
Congrats on the win. I'm sorry you had to turn it down.
Yikes. I was afraid of what you've mentioned. I am finally taking my Omaze trip in July and I noticed that the trip is already going to be above the prize's stated ARV. I was hoping it would stay at that price no matter what.
 
I won a prize which was a new line of clothing valued at $3100. They couldn’t even guarantee that they could send me my size in the clothing and it was also a style that I would never wear ( like spray painted clothing 🫤) after I found out that I would have to pay Federal and State taxes (almost 30% of prize value, I declined) I feel sorry for the people who accept these big prizes without realizing they have to pay taxes later on.
 
Hello all, I was just notified that I won a $3,600 travel package to Indianapolis Race Track, however since it has no cash element I will have to pay the taxes out of pocket, which would be around $1,500. Hence, I had to decline. Any ideas on how to deal with it?
Are they making you pay upfront for a withholding or in your next return? Also, what race? If it's the 500, you can probably make that money back selling it.

What a buzzkill though. Worse than simply not winning it.
 
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Hello all, I was just notified that I won a $3,600 travel package to Indianapolis Race Track, however since it has no cash element I will have to pay the taxes out of pocket, which would be around $1,500. Hence, I had to decline. Any ideas on how to deal with it?
I won a trip to London in 2019 and never had to pay taxes on it. I never got a 1099 either. $1500 sounds really high for taxes! Wonder if it's some kind of scam?
 
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